Toward the end of the debate, Democratic vice presidential candidate Gov. Tim Walz asked Vance to affirm that Trump lost the last election. “Did he lose the 2020 election?” Walz asked.

“Tim, I’m focused on the future,” Vance replied, before pivoting to press Walz on censorship on social media.

That is a damning non-answer,” Walz said. “I’m pretty shocked by this. He lost the election. This is not a debate, it’s not anything anywhere other than in Donald Trump’s world.”

Walz noted that the reason that former Vice President Mike Pence — who was the target of “hang Mike Pence” chants from pro-Trump rioters who invaded the Capitol in 2021 — wasn’t on the debate stage is because he refused to overturn the election on Trump’s behalf.


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    The biggest takeaway for me is that all the good sounds bites are going to be Vance sticking his foot in his mouth. Vance had a bunch of safe and boring answers so nothing for Trump’s base, who already dislike Vance. Walz was probably nervous but he definitely missed several chances to call things out.

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    I didn’t watch the debate but it’s a bit disheartening that every headline so far has “Vance” in it but not “Walz”. The media always give the Republicans far more free publicity than the Democrats.

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    The dumb part here is that the American people and the American political environment and media has normalized all this.

    This is no longer about dumb politicians … it’s just putting on display a very dumb nation.

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      The dumb part here is that the American people and the American political environment and media has normalized all this.

      “The truth is not as important as immigrants, queers, and lesbian feminists with pink hair being put in their place. Authorities get to decide the truth, after all, that’s what they’re for.”

      A world based on ‘strong people’ doing what they want is already a world where the truth doesn’t matter. There is no more illogical outcome that can come from this, because trusting in an authoritarian leader is already completely illogical.

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    If he won the 2020 election then he wouldn’t be able to run again… Do they admit he lost or do they drop out?

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      If he won the 2020 election then he wouldn’t be able to run again…

      There are no rules. There is only what lies the masses (perhaps even enough to win election, with a little bit of Electoral College bs) will accept, and there seems to be no clear limit to that.

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    And he refused to weigh in on the divisive issue of whether the sky was up or down. Or if water is good for you.