The company’s team clarified that their terms prohibit third-party apps from disabling ads, as it denies creators their due reward for viewership. Although the announcement did not specify any app by name, it’s plausible to presume that third-party YouTube apps such as NewPipe, YouTube ReVanced, Piped, and others might be implicated.
“Finally”?
Is “creators” Youtube’s version of “think on the children”?
NewPipe works by fetching the required data from the official API (e.g. PeerTube) of the service you’re using. If the official API is restricted (e.g. YouTube) for our purposes, or is proprietary, the app parses the website or uses an internal API instead. This means that you don’t need an account on any service to use NewPipe.
So NewPipe doesn’t use yt API and it never accepted its terms, so NewPipe is safe (from my understanding)
What about ReVanced? Should be safe, since it’s just a modded version of the official YT app, right?
Unfortunately that’s more likely a strike against them than in their favor
Honestly, I pay for YouTube Premium but I still use Revanced and NewPipe for the extra features. Why can’t they just leave me alone?
Get off of Chrome
Get off of YouTube
Get off of gmail
Get off of Google
Theres a whole big internet out there. You don’t have to limit yourself to one single company.
Getting off youtube is pretty difficult with no true alternative.
You forgot to add get off Android, which would also mean just going Apple. There is no good alternative there either.
I’m excited about Linux phones like the Pinephone, but they’re really not ready for anything more than Linux enthusiasts to flex. I was hoping to switch, but I need a new phone now, so I’ll probably get a Pixel and put GrapheneOS on it. At least that way I control what data Google gets access to.
We have to make the alternatives. As Lemmy is an alternative to reddit, PeerTube could be an alternative to YouTube.
No, GrapheneOS is a great Android OS tbh
I use GOS but… Google phone…
My main issue is not that the phones are Google but that they are flagships only. Completely unaffordable new, cost like a normal phone when used thus overpriced for their condition, and the only ones that cost somewhat like a normal phone new are the ones on which Graphene is EOL. I guess EOL Graphene is still better than a stock OS with updates, but a full phone price for something out of support is still massive overpaying.
Theres always Apple
Thanks, I like having control over my own device. And having both kidneys.
YouTube is not a mandatory necessity. We live in a world of infinite sources of recreation. Get off YouTube has absolutely no requirement for an alternative to exist. Like alcohol, music, books, or whatever, you can only just not do it.
Youtube is a fantastic learning tool for diy, how to vids, reviews, education, etc. The lost goes on, and yea it has crap too, but there’s so much use for it in every day life also. Brushing it off would be literally like saying “dlstay away from books, there’s so many other things you could be looking at”.
YouTube is the only one that doesn’t have an alternative. I mean, there are other video hosts yes, but the content isn’t there.
The creators need to start moving. Their fans will likely follow, since it’s not YouTube they are there for. But I don’t think anyone else offering free, large scale video hosting does much more, if even that, than what YouTube does. Even if it sucks, it’s better than nothing, so there is no incentive to move for anyone.
Most of their fans won’t follow. Convenience is a powerful thing.
There also really aren’t other options. Anyone being able to sign up and host video for free is an extremely expensive service to provide if people take you up on it.
If enough creators moved, the fans would follow.
Unfortunately, the creators won’t move to a platform that doesn’t have users to watch them. And users won’t bother with a platform that doesn’t have creators to watch.
While this can be overcome… Yeah, I think googie will need to fork up yootoob a lot more before enough on both sides are willing to jump ship en masse
Some fans would follow. If 100% of their subscribed channels moved tomorrow, 90% still wouldn’t move to the new platform for a meaningful length of time.
Problem being that there is no real incentive to do so, unless PeerTube finds a way to pay content creators. Until then, switching away from YouTube means loosig their revenue stream…requiring them to take up jobs to pay the bills and eventually have less time for content creation.
Living on donations and patreon alone is hard…
Nebula is trying to be the alternative. It’s a paid subscription and not as plentiful as YouTube is (and maybe never will be).
But it’s a good try, give it some support, if you can
It isn’t much better in terms of content moderation though. In fact probably worst.
They kicked off JT, of Second Thought one of the original creators, for refusing to make a both sides statement about Palestine.
I tried Nabula twice. The latest in 2020.
Service is fine but their UI + search and discover is awful. Like I can barely find creators I like when I search for their exact channel name.
There is also PeerTube and Odysee.
But I have a mixed feelings on the latter.
I can’t get off of YouTube because there’s 20+ creators that are like family to me.
Check if they have channels elsewhere, a few of mine are on Odysee or Nebula. If that’s the case, look into Grayjay, which is an Android app to access a bunch of video services with one interface. It’s still a bit rough, but it’s serviceable, and it allows downloading videos, which is cool.
Sort of true, except YouTube. I watch almost exclusively YouTube few hours every day. If it opens by mistake in a browser, it is totally unwatchable with ads inserted even in short videos. I hope reVanced will manage to avoid detection somehow, otherwise it is quite hopeless. Yes, I can pay for premium, but the app will be full of stupid crap and no gesture controls.
There is also newpipe
Does it show my subscriptions, etc?
No, it does not access your account at all and stores subscribed channels locally within the app. But there might be a way to transfer your subscriptions over if you can find a way to export them from your youtube account.
You can def export your subs. I did it when I set up freetube originally. So it should just be a question of if the other program will import them.
The company’s team clarified that their terms prohibit third-party apps from disabling ads
Most 3rd party apps dont disable it. They just dont implement it
YouTube already denies many creators of their due rewards from viewership over trivial things like saying the word “hell” in a video. it’s obviously something more considering it’s Google we’re talking about.
Good thing Firefox for Android allows plug-ins now. That’s been my go-to mobile YouTube viewer ever since. It’s almost as good as my desktop experience.
But Youtube already take more than half of what creator should earn.
Do you know how much it costs to build and host a video platform?
I knew it was only a matter of time before alternative YouTube clients started getting banned. You can’t “stick it to Google” while still relying on their servers to host the videos. We need to support Lemmy-like services that are distributed and host their own content and communities for video.
That’s peertube, right? A slight problem is that a lot of the popular content is only on YouTube for the money. Better patronage or sponsoring systems would help with that. For ones not in it for the money, knowing there’s a solid service with community would probably suffice.
There is more cntent than you hake time to watch. Look to peertube and suyport what is there.
I’m not going to watch terrible content for the sake of watching terrible content.
They’re not doing a very good job
And I’m here for it. uBlock Origin, NewPipe, and Grayjay all work fine. If those stop working, I’ll also stop using YouTube.
