I’m sure they are working on a youtube messaging app behind the scenes.

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    If they hadn’t gotten so obnoxious with ads that it was impossible to use YouTube without blocking them, I wouldn’t have used the vanced/revanced stuff in the first place.

    They find a way to prevent using those, I’m out totally, including on the few devices I didn’t care about playing the ads because it was just background noise.

    Oh well

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      I even had Youtube premium for a bit. Revanced is nice just to dial back some of the bells and whistles that isn’t relevant to the video platform. The official app feels clunky.

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        I had YouTube Premium after Vanced was killed. I gave it a fair go. No ads- great, it is now back to how it was a decade ago. But also no SponsorBlock - and my God, how many channels I realised I couldn’t listen to anymore when 50% of every video was an ad for one of three online services or games I’m definitely not going to ever pay for. So now I just… don’t watch YouTube on my phone. Hurray?

        Seriously, if the ads are supposedly worth €15 a month, pay the fucking YouTubers enough that I don’t have to listen to a linguist try to sell me WarThunder

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          I still think premium should allow you to block sponsors. YT should make them be sections that are removable.

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          I know, right? So many creators even explain why they do that, it’s because they can’t make enough from youtube to do this full time, but they can from raid shadow legends.

          YouTube premium would be worth something if all the creativity their creators have to use to make a living despite the pay was used for better content.

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        Id really like to use revanced while paying for premium if it means it doesn’t get borked every x months and I don’t risk getting banned, kind of like Spotify tolerates 3rd party clients as long as they are premium accounts

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      Wouldn’t mind the ads if they weren’t deliberately twice as loud as the music! That’s just fucking rude

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    Good luck YouTube

    The official YouTube app will provide one of the better experiences…

    Ha ha ha ha… the author must be dreaming or hasn’t tried many other apps. NewPipe lets you run videos at custom speed, and optionally pitch-shift videos. And you can save videos to watch on any app capable of playing video files stored on disk.

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    finally

    This article is just a youtube premium ad 🤢

    As far as what you get when you go Premium, you won’t see any more ads within the app or the videos that you’re watching. Plus, you’ll gain access to background play, along with being able to download videos on the go. And perhaps what makes this plan even more worthwhile is that you get access to YouTube Music, which features over 100 million commercial free songs. Now, the one drawback is that these features don’t come for free, with a subscription costing $13.99 per month in the US.

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        YouTube is testing a feature where it’ll pop up a button to intelligently skip ahead if you skip once, or so I’ve heard.

        That sounds a lot like sponsorblock.

        Though it won’t be fully automatic.

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        I have premium and SponsorBlock. It doesn’t have to be all or nothing.

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      I would gladly pay for Premium if it actually gave you a decent user experience but it doesn’t.

      I use 3rd party apps because they don’t fill my feed with garbage content. They just show me what I ask for.

      Not to mention apps like GrayJay that integrate content from other sources in the same app.

      Or that it YouTube does nothing about creators filling content with their own ads.

      I was really interested in Nebula before I glanced at their privacy policy and realized that it has all the same data-mining and selling as every other modern web service.

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    I have YouTube Premium but I have to use ReVanced to block shorts because it’s terrible for my ADHD. My mental health has improved ever since I ripped that fucker out of my life.

    I want to control what I see, and this isn’t even about them being paid anymore, it’s just about forcing me to see what I don’t want to see.

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    We need better alternatives

    Also YT premium is not a good solution as it does nothing for privacy

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      Video is nearly impossible to host in a sustainable way. The bandwidth usage is among the most expensive things you can host. The only way you’re getting something better than YouTube is if it’s tax funded somehow.

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        Public libraries should host the peoples internet. As a service, not to generate tax dollars, not to break even.

        Jumping from platform to platform is just delaying the enshitification.

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          Why not? Nationalize it and treat it like the infrastructure it is. Take the ISPs, too, while you’re at it.

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        Nebula is very sustainable.

        The 20mbit bandwidth of a 4k video might have been a lot 10 years ago, but it’s child’s play now.

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          Nebula works for now because it still has nowhere near the amount of videos being served and uploaded per minute than YouTube. Having to cache videos in servers all around the globe takes up significant cost too.

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          I also pay for Nebula.

          I’m fine paying for a service, but I’m not going to pretend that it is a YouTube equivalent.

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      We need better alternatives

      We’d need a quantum leap in storage and bandwidth first - orders of magnitude better, if we want competing to be financially sane 😮‍💨

      Maybe when Google is (hopefully eventually) shattered into a million pieces by some US judge, YouTube could be splintered into several smaller companies, each with some portion of the infrastructure and channels/videos - thus forcing competition. Vaguely similar to the Bell divestiture.

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      Also YT premium is not a good solution as it does nothing for privacy

      Neither is accessing any Google service in the first place, ReVanced or not.

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          Using third party clients does. Think invidious or piped with apps like Libretube

          It requires a proxy (Piped acts as proxy). A 3rd party client in itself doesm not because the video files are still streamed off Google servers.

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    If they manage to break third-party applications, and they cannot be repaired, then I am totally just leaving YouTube entirely. It’s not worth it at that point.

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      My third oarty app stopped working recently, went back to old youtube for my morning shit. Ruined my poo, absolutely not ever going back. Got my app back but grabbed a nebula sub and downloaded a few other options. Fuck youtube.

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      I agree. I refuse to watch ads or to pay for an experience that offers less than a fraction of what Newpipe offers. When Newpipe is no longer viable I’ll repurpose that time to chipping away at my reading list.

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    I quit when they took away the dislike counter, so many said they would but didn’t. All I ever see about Youtube is people complaining about their new shitty tactics… just leave, it’'s the ONLY way to get any changes. They will never change if people keep using the platform.

    Suck it up, leave, you won’t regret it.

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        You’re not going to find everything you want outside of YouTube just yet. But apps like GrayJay make it a lot easier to start transitioning to other platforms.

        It combines most all of the video sharing platforms in one. From there you can start following creators if they have their channel setup on different platforms while still being able to keep your main home feed coming from YouTube if you wanted to.

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      How did you quit? Is there any other video platform?

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    I use the official YouTube app with premium. But, it glitches and reloads on its own after a while. Not to mention the UI frame rate getting capped to the video frame rate when playing a video.

    3rd party apps let me download and browse the videos in a better way and I can also download them in 4k resolution in HDR format.

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    If my 3rd party app is broken to the point theh can’t bring it back, I would like to say I’d drop YouTube like a sack of moldy tangerines. But I really don’t know what I’d do without it. I use it about 8hrs a day.

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    Interesting, I guess we will have to see how quickly and widely this is enforced. I haven’t used the official YouTube app for a very long time and have relied heavily on third party alternatives (Vanced/ReVanced, NewPipe, LibreTube, Grayjay). There is absolutely no way I am paying $17 a month for YouTube so I think a family plan would probably be the best option, though at this point I think I’d be more likely to just abandon the platform altogether.