How about we cut subsidies on oil, and corn, heavily tax carbon output, and put heavy tariffs on virgin plastics… Doing that would increase life expectancy, AND improve quality of life.
That’s the opposite of what his side wants. It really seems like they’re actively trying to force the apocalypse.
For some of them, they are. There’s a whole thing in the Bible about how bad the world has to get (including a war in Israel) for the second coming to happen, and they’re trying to force it.
A ton of evangelicals believe they are living in the end times and there’s no reason to care about the future of the planet or nation anyway.
Quite the amount of hubris. “God has a plan, but he hasn’t worked hard enough at it, so I’m going to help him out.”
If they’re not planning to pay it back, why am I required to pay into it?
You understand that the reason you have roads, schools, food safety, a legal system and all the other things is because you are a member of society.
Survival of the fittest means that it’s unlikely that you would even exist, let alone have the ability or resources to use the internet to spread the rubbish like you just did.
Social security is a different kind of tax that is used to provide for you after you retire. This money is specifically for that and not roads and schools and things because we already pay other taxes for those things as well. If they take this money and use it for other things that’s a broken promise for the people paying in.
Maybe you’ve never looked at your payroll taxes, but you pay separately into Social Security. It’s independent from state and federal taxes.
I guess I’m fit enough to derive your intended thought from that garbled confusion of democratically socialized taxation and Darwinism. Lol
Hate to break it to you, but your only guaranteed death and taxes.
Social Security is not taxation. It’s a government socialized retirement program, independent of state and federal taxes.
It’s not? So I don’t have to pay it?
It’s compulsory, but withdrawn separately from your gross income. You’ll see it listed as a separate line on your pay stubs as well as your income tax form.
So it’s a tax
Cutting Social Security is also known as killing retirees.
Take that boomers… /s
In bird culture. This is seen as a dick move.
I won’t lie; I upvoted (or whatever the lemmy version is) because I’m a sucker for any R&M reference.
A neighbor of mine relies on social security and said he only gets $3000/year. He’s a cancer survivor in poor health with crippling bipolar disorder and lives in a care home. The home provides food and shelter but not clothing or recreation, so the locals always help him out. He’s only in his 60s. How is anyone supposed to survive like that? If they cut his pay any further he straight up won’t be able to live.
If that’s $3k/yr after paying a care home, that’s not so bad.
Social security is based on what you pay in: your top 35 years. If he truly only gets $3k/year, did he even work? Yes, you could argue there should be something need based
Cutting payroll taxes is also known as cutting regressive taxation
Let’s take SS payouts away for 20 years while we let it build back up.
There was plenty of money in that account, but the repubs keep stealing from it to pay for other things. Also wtf would anyone on SS do for the 20 years?
Probably get a fucking job, lazy ungrateful jerks.
Sarcasm I hope?
50/50… something about bootstraps.
So, this is an unpopular opinion, but I kinda agree with this (how tf am I agreeing with that orange turd?).
I’m in my 40s and even at this stage I won’t get next to nothing back for all the years I’ve been putting into social security because both democrats and republicans (mostly republicans) have been steadily taking money out of it in order to fund a multitude of government programs for decades.
Sure, this is not ideal, and the right course of action would be to lower out defense spending budget, and remove a whole lot of subsidies we give to industry that does not help us, but that would just stop the hemorrhaging of money in SS, but we would also need to calculate how much money was lost and replace 100% in one go in order to trully fix this issue.
Sorry bout the ramble, just woke up and on my phone.
Or rich people could pay slightly more and you could retire. Just saying.
1000% behind this. THIS is what I’m saying
Wait your hot take is “yes I agree, cut my government pension fund so that my EMPLOYER doesn’t have to pay more taxes”??
This isn’t you getting more in your paycheck now. This is your employer not having to pay as much in taxes. They will almost definitely not give you that money.
Sure I mean, the stock market might go up a bit for a little while with this extra cash flow, but eventually those people who would rely on the government pension fund will need to draw money from SOMETHING. Then those market gains will crash.
In what way is this beneficial beyond “stock market will go up a couple more years”? Which, by the way, unless you already have close to enough to retire now, just makes it MORE expensive for you to buy.
No, my take is “it’s in a coma and dying, so if we arent going to do the right thing to fix it, just go ahead and finish the job, pull the plug and burry it instead of just posing for your campaign pictures while you remove more organs from it”
If you never personally have to call firefighters because your home is never on fire, if you never have to use WIC, unemployment, etc., do you also think your taxes shouldn’t go to fund them? Not funding a social safety net because you don’t think you’re going to personally get anything out of it is, I think, a very bad take.
SS is insurance that you will not run out of savings. How many million do you have? You are going to need several.
Social security and medicare prevent huge numbers of people from falling into poverty at one of the most vulnerable points in their lives. Wanting to cut it because it doesn’t help you is cruel. Just cruel.
