• 1 Post
  • 88 Comments
Joined 1 year ago
cake
Cake day: July 4th, 2023

help-circle






  • rufus@discuss.tchncs.detoAndroid@lemdro.id*Permanently Deleted*
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    7
    ·
    edit-2
    5 months ago

    Plug it into a computer and see what the computer says.

    I usually use Linux for that because it offers good error messages and I know the tools. But other operating systems might help, too.

    And if you start writing to the card or executing recovery tools, make a backup / image first.

    If the files are very important, maybe don’t tamper with it and ask for help. Like a repair shop, your local Linux community or any trustworthy computer expert friend.

    The biggest enemy is probably encryption, if it’s encrypted. The files are definitely still there if you just ripped it out. In the old days you could just run a recovery program and get everything back.





  • I’ve used laptops for more than a decade. And sure, in the early times thermal management wasn’t that elborate. But I really haven’t seen any laptop in many, many years that doesn’t do it with perfect accuracy. And usually it’s done in hardware so there isn’t really any way for it to fail. And I played games and compiled software for hours with all CPU cores at 100% and fans blasting. At least with my current laptop and the two Thinkpads before. The first one had really good fans and never went to the limit. The others hit it with an accuracy of like 2 or 3 degrees. No software necessary. I’m pretty sure with the technology of the last 10 years, throttling doesn’t ever fail unless you deliberately mess with it.

    But now that I’m thinking of the fans… Maybe if the fan is clogged or has mechanically failed, there is a way… A decent Intel or AMD CPU will still throttle. But without a fan and airflow inside the laptop, other components might get too hot. But I’m thinking more of some capacitors or the harddisk which can’t defend itself. The iGPU should be part of the thermal budget of the rest of the processor. Maybe it’s handled differently because it doesn’t draw that much power and doesn’t really contribute to overheating it. I’m not sure.

    Maybe it’s more a hardware failure, a defective sensor, dust, a loose heat conductor, thermal paste or the fan? I still can’t believe a laptop would enter that mode unless something was wrong with the hardware. But I might be wrong.



  • Why does it force the processor over the limit in the first place?

    I think in every other laptop the CPU just throttles when it gets too hot. Meaning it can never exceed the maximum temperature. I wonder if this is a misunderstanding or if HP actually did away with all of that and designed a laptop that will cook itself.

    And it’s not even a good design decision to shutdown the PC if someone runs a game… Aren’t computers meant to run them? Why not automatically lower the framerate by throttling? Why shut down instead?






  • Thanks for taking the time to explain it to me. The Github issue also is very helpful. Seems that’s exactly my answer to “Why do I need a fourth store in addition to F-Droid, AuroraStore and Obtanium” 😉

    Have a nice day, thanks for the STT keyboard! I didn’t really engage in the discussion because I’m exactly in the same situation as other people here. I already have the FUTO one and Sayboard… But eventually I’d like to replace FUTO software with free software alternatives. I don’t like their licensing. So this is very welcome.