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Cake day: July 9th, 2023

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  • True, one person needs an account. You used to be able to do Jitsi - and before it other webrtc calling solutions - with no account at all but now Jitsi also needs the first host to sign in.

    But Signal calls, every participant must have a Signal account. The others, I can invite people to join with no account.

    “Browser tech”? Just the fact you can make it work from a browser without needing to install anything else. Again, Signal isn’t set up for that kind of thing. It’s just designed and extended from a different use case.












  • if he had a warehouse full of tshirts with his name or face on them and decides after filing bankruptcy that he doesn’t want to sell them anymore, should he just get to keep it? Should it all be destroyed?

    It’s more like, should be be forced to sell them to someone else who will put their own messages on the t-shirt with his face.

    As to the cattle brand (and less so the t-shirts), the cattle are valuable property regardless of his branding. The social media account is the branding. To forceably sell the cattle is quite different from forceably selling the brand with his name.

    It goes further: the real value of his social media handle, I imagine, is the number of subscribers it has. Are subscribers an asset to be bought and sold? Capitalism thinks so. But I think they’re not ‘his’ assets, they’re the choices of those subscribers. To ‘buy’ them seems like defrauding the people who chose to listen to him.

    If someone was already selling porn before, do you think if they continued to that they shouldn’t have to give any of that money they earned to the people they owe money to?

    The money they earned - exactly! Not forcing them to keep doing porn. Of course this case isn’t extreme like that.

    how much of his ‘likeness’ is being sold is debatable to begin with

    No it’s not. The value is that it is (was) his Alex Jones account, presumably with his subscribers too. Or are there a bunch of other Alex Jonses clamouring to have the handle freed so they can have the name fresh for themselves? I’m sure they’d like it; but that’s not the value in this case.

    Wipe his Twitter account - if you think deplatforming is an appropriate action. Let another person buy the name fresh (and be sued if they use it to pretend they are him). Take his real assets and sell them. But taking his Twitter account as is and selling it seems, IMHO, the wrong sort of capitalism.


  • That’s a fair point. It seems rather awkward. Selling off the assets of said talk show, easy decision. Selling the brand, though, if it’s tied to your person / personal name, that seems dubious. Especially against the named person’s will.

    For something like t-shirt likenesses, I suppose I think the line is the person’s consent. I can sell permission for my face to be on your t-shirt, but being forced to seems wrong. In the extreme case: a person is legally entitled to sell nude images of themselves, but surely a court would never order it, even if that person had been previously selling nude images.