Misskey has a more similar UI to Twitter, and it can’t even get noticed by fediverse users.

When you go to comment on a blog, where do you sign up?

I mean, it’s a network of indeoendent websites. I’m not sure what kind of solution to this people want.

People seem to be able to choose which wrbsite they’re signing up for when looking at Twitter, BlueSky, and Threads. It’s not like it’t that weird of an idea.

They even grok the idea that different Wordpress-based websites are different from each other!

Maybe if we stopped treating “Mastodon” as a space, and talked about it like the webhost software it is, people would understand.

The fact that the fediverse has been mentally limited to “Mastodon and Lemmy” is so sad. The features many people complained weren’t on Mastodon were right there on Akkoma, Misskey, Friendica, Hometown, and others. But nobody would even look at them.

Even on the fediverse nobody wants to discuss the sea of alternative services.

I cry a little bit every time someone acts like Misskey and its forks don’t exist

There’s a lot of that. A ton of FOSS software is somewhat exclusionary because it’s made for the people who make it.

But a lot of the UX issues on Mastodon have nothing to do with the tech, nor the UI. They’re social in nature.The existing userbase skews technical, which affects what people discuss, and people looking for help are met with a deluge of tech savy people giving tech savy advice.

Oh, and there’s the mass of very vocal users on niche sites that have strong feelings about having their niche safe space invaded by “normies”, and who let it be known that new users should learn and adhere to “the rules” and respect the unlisted, unagreed upon nettiquite of social outcast “progressive” fedi or GTFO.

And then, on top of the social, there’s just the fact that most Internet users don’t really grok the Internet these days. Twitter or BlueSky aren’t websites to them/ they’re “apps”. The very nature of federation on the Fediverse runs counter to how they understand how thir “apps” work.

They don’t want to have to know about it, but they can’t avoid people talking about it, making judgements around it, and having to confront it when edge cases crop up or when admins decide they don’t like or trust the new crop of fedi websites that have sprung up this month or last.

On Twiiter or BlueSky, they don’t have to think about any of it.

ETA: Things might be different if people stopped treating “Mastodon” as a place that exists on the Internet, but even the Mastodon developer treats it that way, when it’s convenient to him. He’s created a little functional monopoly, and seems to care moee about that than anything.

Mastodon servers are Mastodon branded, and that is a mistake, in the long run. We need to communicate to people that they can sign up for MyInterest.social, that is MyInterest branded, while also getting to follow people elsewhere. That overcomes the biggest hurdle.

But that doesn’t satisfy the egos of people in positions to right the ship.

It’s auto-complete. It knows that “4” is the most common substring to follow “2 + 2” in its training. It’s not actually doing addition.

What’s the claim about federation that overcomes the bullshit of social media usage?

Anything niche by computer geek standards So, like, anything from normie interests to things that are so niche that you need 30 million MAU to have an active space.

Most people came to Lemmy becaise they felt personally agreived by the Reddit API issue. They don’t give a shit about what’s good for the Internet, or society.

They’re here out of protest, and would happily give their all to the next Billionaire that makes them feel smarter than the average bear.

Ignoring the Nazis in the room, rather than barring them from entey, is enabling Nazis

To a platform that has been on the record about not kicking ouy Nazis, though.

They’re leaving Musk, but they’re not leaving his financial backers, and they’re entering into the same kind of “possibly sold to a fascist despot at a moment’s notice” situation they just left.

It’s short sighted, perfirmative, and doesn’t actually make the Internet better at all. It just tells us that people prefer a closed Internet owned by billionaires.

Money is power, and people with money like to habe power.

If someone else is pulling in more money, you’re going to find yourself with less power.

Running from one platform backed by people who supported Trump, right into another one. Gotta love controlled opposition and the illusion of choice.

A big issue with the 2022 signup wave was the influx of new Masto websites, run by new admins. The subscription model of ActivityPub meant they were mostly contentless, and they weren’t seeded by knowledgeable users. People needed to understand the basics of federation to find anything because nothing was being syndicated on those sites.

And then a bunch of them shut down when admins who were ok hosting hundreds of like-minded users suddenly had thousands of generalist users flooding their sites.

It was major human infrastructure failure.

And that was as a whole bunch of tenured users started getting hostile over people not adopting the idiosyncratic nettiquite of the was-niche-only-yesterday space. The server blocks started rolling out, and people needed to understand the idea of “federation” (and, apparently, “the Internet”) to understand why they were being “denied access” to the cranky people, trolls, and unmoderated spaces.

The truth is, most people don’t like the internet. They like the simple, streamlined process of just being owned by corporate interests. Walles gardens work for them in a way public parks never will.

Uh, probably the default web interface. And Masto servers still lack quite a bit of functionality found on other fedi services.

That is not moderation. Moderation involves removing bad actors from the site, not underground black lists that let you pretend the Nazis aren’t living next door.

Mastodon has local and global feeds, and has for years. Did you just sit in your home feed and wonder where all the stuff you haven’t subscribed to was?

There’s no way to fight them on platforms where they are welcomed by the platform itself. Bluesky doesn’t want to moderate its platform, so there is no fighting the Nazis there.