My concern is that they’ll further weaken the already pathetic judicial process for deportation (justifying it by saying it speeds up the process “and we have so many cases to get through”) and citizens who get swept up by the machine won’t have a chance to prove their citizenship. Because when the REAL goal is oppression and elimination of a minority group, “accidentally” deporting a few hundred citizens is a feature not a bug.

If it gets that bad, your only hope is to have your documents on you at all times and hope that you’re lucky enough for the boots on the ground to walk past you because of it.

I could be wrong, but isn’t the “not annexing” because he doesn’t recognize it as a separate territory in the first place?

Stability doesn’t mean “peace” it means “things don’t get worse.” And I think we both know that things could be A LOT worse.

IMO this is the real answer. Geopolitical stability in the region, at the cost of letting Israel do whatever it wants including genociding the Palestinians. It makes me sick, but I have a sinking feeling that if we allowed the entire region become unstable, that would make me sick as well.

“Quagmire” is a word for a reason.

He knows

I’m quite sure you don’t understand how it works.

Just setting up plausible deniability against accusations of helping trump.

it’s not like logical consistency matters to them.

In fact, fascists see the ability to just say whatever gets them the most power in the moment as a strength. They’re not held back by “weaknesses” like truth and facts

All that matters to them is power

Naturally it would be preposterous for him to be on the ticket for President, but the reason they continue to let him run for Congress is because he counts towards the Dems in terms of determining which party has the majority and therefore sets the agenda for that chamber of Congress. Without him, that particular part of WV would almost certainly go to the GOP and tip control of the Senate firmly in their favor.

It’s a deal with a devil, and one that has burned the Dems more than once. But without him we’d probably be completely fucked.

I’m not deluding myself about anything. The choice isn’t “vote for or against genocide” it’s “act to get less or more genocide”. It’s not a false dichotomy; if you’re not voting to defeat Trump, then you’re acting to get more genocide.

By not acting to defeat Trump, you’re enabling genocide more than Biden ever has.

“I’d rather let someone who actively, aggressively advocates, enables, and wants genocide domestically and abroad to win the presidency, over voting for somebody who passively enables genocide to happen abroad because actively trying to stop it could ignite WWIII” is still a bad take.

It’s baffling and hypocritical.

The thing is, police and politicians don’t care about getting correct results, they only care about results. An innocent person convicted is still “case closed” and “another criminal punished.”

Politicians can be made to care by threatening their jobs, but the police still don’t give a shit about catching the right person as long as they can put somebody behind bars by any means possible.

I’m their view, the experts are part of the problem and should be ignored.

He’s also said that he regrets a lot of that. 🤷🏻‍♀️

I think it’s important to note that the solution isn’t to not remove the dams, it’s to fucking nationalize the power companies.

and not address the actual discussions.

Sorry, you lost me. What actual discussions are being ignored?

Gotcha. Very valid point.

People love looking at the first civil war in conversations like this, but the next civil war is going to be nothing like it. For a likely comparison, you’d have to look at the Spanish Civil War and The Troubles in Ireland.

Americans have no fucking clue what they’re asking for.