• toastal@lemmy.ml
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    3 months ago

    What’s odd to me is the cultural zeitgeist has moved to folks being aware that Microsoft (& Google & Apple) is collecting data on them to being the butt of jokes, yet those folks aren’t adopting an alternatives. With over a decade on Linux I’m now pretty out of touch with the opposite feeling. I guess the closest analog I have is not being able to realistically leave Android behind, but that is more hardware than software (banking app already don’t let you root or otherwise flash your device so I have given up hope in trying with them).

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      3 months ago

      A few days ago I tried to install Windows 11 on the PC of a friend. It didn’t work because of missing SATA drivers. Anyway, I was shocked how many points there are where Microsoft or Apple (we used his mac to create the USB drive) tries to sell something (buy pro version of fan controll now) or wants your permissions to gather all your data.

      I convinced him to let me install debian. When it came to creating the default user he was hesitant to use his full name, because telemetry :D

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        3 months ago

        I mean I don’t really see the point of using your real name on your system unless you often forget who you are. I would praise my friend tho for having the correct skeptical reaction even if it should be relatively harmless.

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          I also think it’s a healthy attitude but at the same time it’s sad that people can’t trust their own devices any longer.

          Using your real name can have benefits, like metadata in office documents or things like that. If you are sure your devices are yours and secure, there shouldn’t be a reason not to use your own name. Unfortunately this isn’t the case anymore if you are using anything else but Linux

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          If a machine is going to have multiple users (all my computers have multiple profiles for family members) all those users have to be called something, and I’ve not got the energy or the creativity to come up with fun and funky usernames for every system when my actual name is more than good enough.

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            3 months ago

            Username is required for the home folder & login; name isn’t required for anything

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      banking app already don’t let you root or otherwise flash your device so I have given up hope in trying with them

      You can get around that pretty easily by fooling SafetyNet / Play Integrity and hiding root from those apps. My phones have all been rooted for years and I never had issues with banking apps. I don’t even run any google services anymore and the apps I use are fine with that.

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        I would not say easily. And even if you pass SafetyNet, your banking app may still not work. I have one, and I haven’t figured out what it checks for, maybe LineageOS name or something. Would probably have to tear the apk apart to find out.

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          Do you use Magisk? I assume you have done the following already?

          • Enable Zygisk & the DenyList
          • (If Google apps are installed, deny all Google apps root access)
          • Deny the app in question root access
          • Install PlayIntegrityFix on newer devices OR SafetyNetFix on older devices (don’t install both)
          • Reboot, force stop app and clear storage/cache
          • (Check if it works with this and this)

          That should do it for all apps that do not require strong integrity.

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              Yes, on my old phone it worked fine with the SafetyNetFix. I use microG now so Google Wallet is not implemented (yet).

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            3 months ago

            Thanks for the list. I didn’t have PlayIntegrityFix. Unfortunately it does not seem to be helping with the app.

            First one doesn’t pass all checks, but the second one does.