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  • chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    9 months ago

    Could someone translate wtf he is even trying to say with this? Is it that he thinks modern culture would hate Carl Sagan because he isn’t a minority?

    • SuperDuper@lemmy.world
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      9 months ago

      “Hello, son. I am a massive bigot. Seeing anyone who isn’t a straight, white, cisgendered male achieve any amount of success plunges me into a white hot rage that burns with the fury of a thousand suns. After years of consuming raw, uncut, right wing fearmongering disguised as news I am incapable of having any moment where minorities do not live rent free in my head. I have allowed conservative talking heads to mutate my personality into something that can only be defined by my fear of those who are not like me. Even if minorities have absolutely nothing to do with the topic at hand, my hatred of them is the only thing that I can imagine. I am deeply unhappy.”

  • Boozilla@lemmy.world
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    9 months ago

    I know a few people like this. They see everything through a political lens. It’s exhausting.

    Sorry your dad has no chill. Mine was much the same way. Maybe call it to his attention in a funny way. “You know dad, sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.”

    • Zoidsberg@lemmy.caOP
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      9 months ago

      Thanks.

      Trust me, we’ve all mentioned it to him. He’s convinced nobody likes him because he’s a conservative.

      • EvilBit@lemmy.world
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        9 months ago

        The catch here is that I don’t like people who try to destroy my friends’ lives. Since the conservative platform is to destroy many of my friends’ lives, I don’t like people who follow the conservative platform. Conservatives like to treat this as bigotry when it actually isn’t. It’s intolerance of intolerance, which is not just acceptable, but necessary.

          • EvilBit@lemmy.world
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            9 months ago

            The clear anti-LGBTQ+ conservative stance is no secret. Same with the white supremacy and Christian nationalism.

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              9 months ago

              The claim is that the platform is based on wanting to destroy lives. Are you saying that the “clear” anti-LGBTQ+ stance is such that they are seeking to destroy the lives of those people?

              I’ve never once heard anyone on the right declare a desire to destroy anyone’s lives. I’m open to being proven wrong, but that would require a link to such a declaration.

              • EvilBit@lemmy.world
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                9 months ago

                This feels like a bad faith hair-splitting argument. But just in case you’re not being deliberately obtuse, the conservative platform views LGBTQ+ rights, minority voting rights, women’s bodily rights, and many other important matters of human freedom and livelihood as invalid. Just because they don’t explicitly say “our platform is specifically to maliciously destroy the lives of these people”, doesn’t mean the de facto platform is not destructive of those lives.

                Edit: Freudian typo hate->hair

                • intensely_human@lemm.ee
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                  9 months ago

                  the conservative platform views LGBTQ+ rights, minority voting rights, women’s bodily rights, and many other important matters of human freedom and livelihood as invalid

                  Yes, I’m very familiar with this image of conservatives.

                  The difference is I’m asking you to link to a conservative individual or organization taking this stance.

                  What you consider “bad faith” is me issuing a challenge that I don’t think you’re going to be able to meet. It’s a rhetorical method where you’re supposed to try and then realize you can’t, and then have the presence of mind to realize that it’s significant that you can’t find this thing you claim exists.

      • BroBot9000@lemmy.world
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        9 months ago

        That’s projection.

        He doesn’t like people because they aren’t conservative and he’s projecting that same feeling onto others and treats them as he thinks they would treat him. With hostility.

        • magnusrufus@lemmy.world
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          9 months ago

          To be fair he might not like some people because they are black, trans, or little people regardless of if they are conservative or not.

    • intensely_human@lemm.ee
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      9 months ago

      So if there’s certain material which, whenever a person encounters it, changes their mind, how do you account for that?

      Wouldn’t the simplest explanation for that be that this material contains compelling arguments people aren’t seeing outside that material?

      • Zoidsberg@lemmy.caOP
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        9 months ago

        The History Channel makes compelling arguments for how extra-terrestrials built the pyramids. Compelling doesn’t always equal true.

        • intensely_human@lemm.ee
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          9 months ago

          In this case I’m using to to mean compelling to people with a brain, not just “history channel made a speculation so I’m sold”

      • forrgott@lemm.ee
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        9 months ago

        Or, and I know this is really out there, but maybe, just maybe, facts don’t actually care about your feelings.

        • intensely_human@lemm.ee
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          9 months ago

          Yeah but you have no idea what claims are in these materials, because you think they’re too toxic to read.

          • forrgott@lemm.ee
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            9 months ago

            Completely untrue. I’m not afraid of news outlets. I’m not afraid of what the “others” have to say

            Pretty sure you’re talking about yourself here, champ.