UN Security Council passes resolution calling for an “immediate ceasefire” in Gaza, as US shifts position by abstaining from vote

  • soratoyuki@lemmy.world
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    8 months ago

    So the months of coordinated efforts to by activists to disrupt Democratic meetings, harass Democratic politicians, chant genocide Joe, vote uncommitted in primaries, block traffic, support BDS efforts etc. was actually an effective method of protest that had a small but meaningful effect in changing foreign policy?

    The methods of protest the state wants us to think are successful and the methods that can actually succeed are usually not the same. Please take note.

    • Cornelius_Wangenheim@lemmy.world
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      7 months ago

      And will they reward Biden for listening or reinforce the idea that there’s no point trying to please the progressive left by finding some other reason to get upset and not vote?

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          7 months ago

          I don’t think the progressive left is why Hillary lost. Certainly, people choosing not to vote because she was centrist had an impact, but I don’t think there were really enough “Bernie or bust” folks to be solely responsible. You actually had a higher percentage of Bernie voters going for Hillary in 2016 than you did Hilary voters going for Obama in 2008.

          You had like five different factors and a pretty tight final margin. No one factor was responsible. Comey’s letter, Hilary being center, Russian meddling, online misinformation – all of it is partially but not wholly responsible.

            • sirboozebum@lemmy.world
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              7 months ago

              Yeah, but Sanders wouldn’t win either.

              He couldn’t even beat Hillary Clinton.

              If it wasn’t for the undemocratic caucuses, he would have lost earlier.

              And before someone says it, it wasn’t “rigged”. Sanders lost by millions of votes.

              The electorate isn’t as progressive as the echo chambers on Lemmy and Reddit are.