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    30 days ago

    Yesterday’s AI is today’s normal technology, this is just what keeps happening. Some people just keep forgetting how rapidly things are changing.

    You’ll join this “cult” once the masses do, just like you have been doing all along. Some of us are just out here a little bit in the future. You will be one of us when you think it becomes cool, and then you will self-righteously act like you were one of us all along. That’s just what weak-minded followers do. They try to seem like they knew all along where the world was headed without ever trying to look ahead and ridiculing anyone who does.

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      30 days ago

      The thing you’re evangelizing only leads to more consolidation of power and money, loss of jobs and power for the working class and climate devastation.

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        29 days ago

        Yeah, technological progress has historically made life worse for humans.

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          29 days ago

          Technological “progress” historically mostly served to siphon power to the wealthy.

          Also, as a species, we’re currently in the process of conucting a mass extinction, as well as destroying our biosphere.

          I recommend you to read the book “Blood in the Machine” as an account how industrialization worsened the life of 19th century textile workers and how the Luddites fought against the disenfrachisement of the people.

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            29 days ago

            I recommend reading “The Better Angels of Our Nature” by Steven Pinker. People love to complain about how much worse quality of life has gotten for people, but when actually pressed for specific ways it has gotten worse, they are almost always arguing from a complete ignorance of history. Lifespan is much longer, healthspan is much longer, rapes are way down, murders are way down, torture is way down, dying in childbirth is way down, incest is way fown, pedophilia is way down, starvation is way down, dying from wild animals is way down, wars are way down. Problems now for lots of the world are things like people bickering over who gets to be next to who when they pee and who called a “he” a “she”.

            This idea that the world is way worse than it used to be is absurd and just shines a massive light on how popular it has gotten to selfish brats completely oblivious of where we came from.

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              29 days ago

              I knowof Steven Pinker and don’t agree with his conclusions. I even got a video debunking him you’re probably not gonna watch either

              but when actually pressed for specific ways it has gotten worse, they are almost always arguing from a complete ignorance of history.

              You’ve ignored my point about climate change. I’m quite sure that concerning history, I got a bit more nuanced takes than you do.

              Lifespan is much longer, healthspan is much longer

              Medical advances have been made, yes. Inpart due to, technological advancements. These are fundamentally good and not what I’m arguing against.

              rapes are way down

              How is that a result of technological advances and not social movements fighting for a brighter future?

              murders are way down, torture is way down,

              I doubt that, if you look at it globally. Israel is currently performing a genocide. I consider that murder.

              dying in childbirth is way down

              Again, healthcare advances.

              incest is way fown, pedophilia is way down, starvation is way down

              Not touching those points.

              dying from wild animals is way down

              Ecodiversity is way down and global pandemics are way up.

              wars are way down

              Are you kidding me? Did you live under a rock for the last 50 years?

              Problems now for lots of the world are things like people bickering over who gets to be next to who when they pee and who called a “he” a “she”.

              No, problems now for “lots of the world” is climate change, job insecurity, housing crisis, dangers of a global war escalation, …

              This idea that the world is way worse than it used to be

              Not what I said.

              selfish brats completely oblivious of where we came from

              Says the person who choses to ignore how much progress has been done through sometimes violent, social movements.

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                27 days ago

                It is honestly amazing how little you know of history. We literally had over 100 weeks with more casualties than the entire Russian and isreali wars combined back in ww2. And somehow you think wars are now worse. It’s honestly mind boggling.

                Also, it is absolutely undeniable that murder is way down. You haven’t looked, and you can’t imagine how far off you are. The same for pandemics, it’s not even comparable. You are arguing that dinosaurs are smaller than most mice and it would be hilarious if it wasn’t so sad that you are so sure of yourself and so completely wrong about something you refuse to research. It is literally so easy to quickly look up and find you are wrong.

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                  27 days ago

                  you didn’t watch the video, did you?

                  How are global pandemics way down? hou often did global pandemics occur in the past?

                  Ok, you got me. WWII was afwul. I would also consider it a historical outlier.

                  And you’re gonna ignore climate change completely, huh?

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                    27 days ago

                    Clearly, climate change is on the rise. It is absolutely a fair price to pay for all the advancement. For almost all of history, we were dying under 30 years, we are close to triple that thanks to technology and all signs point to lifespan increasing. For pandemics, even if we outrageously compare just the number of deaths, not even percentages as we should, many pandemics of the distant past were way way worse than the only one almost all of us have seen in our lifetimes.

                    https://www.visualcapitalist.com/history-of-pandemics-deadliest/

                    I know you have it in your head that technology is evil or whatever, but that falls flat when you look up the numbers you are so afraid of. You are like a teenager complaining about how awful their parents are when literally everything you love and enjoy has come directly from them. I would not be surprised in the least if you are a literal teenager with how little you have heard about history.