• manwohats@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    7 months ago

    for everytime Movie Industry tells ISP to block pirates, there is more smart pirates who can find away around the block!

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      7 months ago

      VPN is very available but this would probably still stop the majority. It’s like locks: it won’t keep everyone out, just enough not to try.

    • You999@sh.itjust.works
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      7 months ago

      If they are trying at great leghth to block IPs associated with piracy, it isn’t that much harder to get known VPN IPs blocked too especially when they could use the ‘why won’t someone think of the children’ card and claim VPNs are solely used for CSAM and drug markets.

      The smart move would be to skip VPNs and move over to I2P. For those who don’t know I2P is kinda like if tor and torrents had a baby that was a VPN on crack. Unlike a VPN where your traffic is encrypted and sent to one centralized server, I2P encrypts and routes your data through multiple servers and unlike tor every client by default is a node that data can be routed through.

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        7 months ago

        But at the same time I2P is still built upon TCP/IP so it’s still like encrypted yodeling. Finding out who’s likely yodeling down movies is rather easy. The protection instead lies in the high barrier to prove exactly which movie and when so as to pass the barrier for court admissable evidence.

        Now don’t misunderstand me, I2P is great stuff and I’ve used it on and off for years, but it shouldn’t be treated as the holy grail of safe and secure communication. Nothing can truly be that if it’s built on TCP/IP for fairly obvious reasons.

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          7 months ago

          It’s true, it’s not a silverbullet, but it’s probably the next step to piracy and illegal content, IF someday they find a working solution to break torrent over the clearnet.

          They already found a simple elegant working solution for the common user: Block at the DNS level in the router. While this works for most non techy user, most of us already use a VPN or know how to change the default DNS server.

          • ninjan@lemmy.mildgrim.com
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            7 months ago

            Yes, it’s the next step and an evolution because it is far more of a trust less approach. With VPNs you need to trust your provider. If they “give you up” then you’re well and truly fucked. For I2P there is no way for a malicious node operators to parse out who is doing what. And the source code you can vet yourself so no need to trust it. Still if you have actors working together in the nodes, the torrent provider and at the ISP level then you can most certainly find a way to break the layer of secrecy. The barrier is however vast and so far police haven’t spent that much effort on piracy because it isn’t a serious crime in the eyes of the law. And I don’t foresee that they will for many years.

            It’s also far more accessible than say Usenet and VPN+private trackers. Which is a very good thing for privacy in general.

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    7 months ago

    We’ve done this dance already.

    • Bully everyone and pass restrictive laws yields more piracy than ever, and a good crop of mentors for future pirates.
    • Build quality streaming services with excellent selection of media, and the piracy community shrinks. (Sad, when it happens, because there’s evidence that wide-coverage digital media preservation is nearly impossible without the piracy community.)

    It’s almost like the Movie Industry doesn’t care about any of the things they claim they care about…

    Edit: I guess it’s possible they’re playing out a long con to ensure their favorite episodes of “I Love Lucy” survive…

    Edit 2: No, I don’t really think they’re somehow secretly not the assholes they appear to be.

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    7 months ago

    A site-blocking law would let copyright owners “request, in court, that Internet service providers block access to websites dedicated to sharing illegal, stolen content,” he said. Rivkin claimed that in the US, piracy “steals hundreds of thousands of jobs from workers and tens of billions of dollars from our economy rich people’s yacht money, including more than one billion in theatrical ticket sales.”

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      7 months ago

      Ah yes. Theatre-going. The favorite pastime of Gen X, Millennials and Gen Z since the invention of streaming.

      /s