• Outsider9042@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    Of all the distros I’ve hopped over the last 25 years, the most self destructive one has to have been Ubuntu.

    I use NixOS btw

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    3 months ago

    Also, this whole meme misses out on the whole fun factor of getting everything setup exactly how you want and all the learning along the way. The Arch user is way more likely to fix any issues that come up in the future rather than just nuking the install and starting over Windows-style like this meme suggests.

    Arch user rage bait and I guess I fell for it. I use arch btw.

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      3 months ago

      If you actually want to use your machine, keeping the machine from nuking itself shouldn’t be a hobby on its own. I need a reliable platform to work on, not a minefield on a fault line.

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        3 months ago

        Don’t know what you’ve been using but I sure wouldn’t describe Arch as any of that. Once things are setup, I’ve extremely rarely run into issues that I didn’t cause myself.

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          3 months ago

          “That I didn’t cause myself” is basically self-gaslighting. Using a system in exactly the way it’s supposed to be used shouldn’t cause any issues. Regular updates shouldn’t cause issues. Sure, it can happen, but it shouldn’t be the norm.

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            3 months ago

            Recognizing your own mistakes is self-gaslighting now? FFS. And making a mistake sure is not “using a system in exactly the way it’s supposed to be used.”

            Sometimes we make mistakes, it’s okay. If I wanted my OS to coddle me I wouldn’t be using Linux.

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              3 months ago

              Doing an update is not a mistake.

              Again, this is exactly how the system is supposed to be used. You run whatever the update command is on your system occasionally. If that regularly breaks your system, the OS is not a stable platform. That might have its reasons, but it doesn’t change the facts.

  • 9488fcea02a9@sh.itjust.works
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    3 months ago

    totally anecdotal… but i’ve installed debian on a bunch of different machines and i’ve never had to “prepare additional installation media” for any weird hardware/firmware/drivers… i just installed the base system and connected ethernet if any non-free stuff is needed. has anyone ever come across an ethernet interface that didn’t work out of the box? maybe it didn’t work 100%, but at least good enough to download the proper firmware to fix?

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      3 months ago

      Some wifi drivers. It’s because of the Debian philosophy of never using non-free (as in speech, not beer) software.

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        3 months ago

        Thats why i said you just need a few minutes on ethernet… Although i can see the problem these days with a lot of laptops shipping without ethernet ports

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          3 months ago

          These days Debian ship with non-free firmware in the default installer, so laptops without ethernet isn’t a problem.

  • kadu@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    Arch users overreacting to a meme is not helping refute it. I use arch, btw.