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- news@lemmy.world
It’s estimated that between 1,000 and 1,200 settlers surrounded the village, and around 500 stormed it just after midday local time on Friday, blocking all the roads in the area.
According to Abu-Alia [head of the village council], the Israeli military arrived at the scene at around 3 p.m. local time, but did not stop the settlers from attacking the village. Instead, Israeli soldiers allowed them to raid homes, prevented Palestinian residents from moving around and blocked ambulances from reaching the injured, he alleged.
Israeli security forces had informed Palestinian officials that the settlers were looking for an Israeli teenager who had gone missing earlier in the day.
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Armed Israeli Settlers are terrorists. Killing innocent civilians and destroying their property to further their political agenda.
Seems like a pretty clear cut case of terrorism to me.
They are state sponsored terrorists.
So you would call the Black Lives Matter/George Floyd rioters terrorists then?
What does it take to drop the word Terrorists?
Terrorist means you’re waging war with the West without spending a lot of money.
A violent riot is not the same as terrorism.
That’s interesting that a thousand “settlers” are rioters but those on Oct 7th are terrorists.
Oct 7th was an organized invasion of Israel by Hamas, a known terrorist organization. They also entered Israel with the express and sole purpose of killing as many Jews/Israelis as possible. The rioters in the West Bank didn’t go there to kill people by all accounts. If they had, there would be more than just a single death.
The settler rioters were not terrorists by that definition, because they were not trying to accomplish a political aim, they were angry and lashing out because islamic terrorists from the West Bank kidnapped and killed (?) a 14 year old child.
Terrorists, both the settlers and the IDF.
Why is no one talking about the last part where it all happened because a teenager got abducted? These comments are weird.
Ah yes, the best way to search for missing people: by shooting up am entire village that ended up having nothing to do with the boy!
Collective punishment is a war crime.
Punishing random members of an entire ethnicity is not helpful and only screws over Israel in the long run. These extremist settlers are making coexistence impossible and that’s intentional since they are the group in Israel who are most opposed to any two state solution.
I don’t understand? Didn’t someone go missing?
That’s the most recent case that provoked this latest pogrom, but Settlers have been attacking Palestinian towns for years. The Israeli Supreme Court ruled that settlers don’t have to be punished equally as Palestinians for the same crimes.
Because this part is more shocking? I think if the last 6 months has taught us anything it’s possible to retaliate to something so extremely that everybody ends up thinking you’re the asshole.
To spell it out: this was a very extreme reaction to the problem, mainly harming innocent people which is playing out against the backdrop of what seems to be a genocide.
What if the missing person was your child? And what if it seemed likely they were the culprits? (Serious answer please)
I’ll be able to tell you actually considered this by your answer
If they just seemed like the likely culprits I would certainly not get together 1,000 of my unhinged friends and storm the town, burning cars and homes, stealing 70 sheep and blocking ambulances. Because I am not evil or stupid. Shockingly, they did not get the kid back.
Honestly, I would look for more evidence or more likely, tell what I know to the police. This is how you deal with these problems in civilised countries. Where I am from doing what these people did would get you arrested.
If you think punishing innocent people for this IMAGINED crime (since they do not know and apparently didn’t find the kid) is acceptable you seriously need help. What they did is an unjustified crime, and blocking ambulances from reaching the injured would be the most disgusting thing I’d heard in a long time of the IDF hadn’t raised that bar way too high already.
So there is strong support for Hamas from the Palestinian people. Hamas killed and kidnapped 2000 Israelis. In fact, Hamas still has kidnapped Israelis. And somehow, this according to you is acceptable because you’ve only mentioned how disgusting it is for Israelis to block ambulances - nothing about holding innocent people as hostages.
I’m going to make my point very clear. Blocking ambulances is wrong and disgusting yes. But not talking about literal innocent hostages because it doesn’t fit your narrative is also disgusting
In fact, Hamas still has kidnapped Israelis. And somehow, this according to you is acceptable because you’ve only mentioned how disgusting it is for Israelis to block ambulances - nothing about holding innocent people as hostages.
Sorry but this is pathetic. Can you find anywhere where I actually said that this is acceptable? NO! Because I don’t think it is and would never say so. Feel free to look if you want to waste your time. So why would you make this suggestion? I think I can answer this too:
Blocking ambulances is wrong and disgusting yes
You bookended this with comments about innocent hostages held by Hamas because you think that no matter what Israel did, Hamas are still the bad guys. So rather than just criticising Israel - which you did do, to be fair - you have to put in all of this “Hamas bad” hasbara as well even though we can all read the story of what happened here. You don’t want to just criticize the IDF and settlers even though they are obviously in the wrong here.
The facts in this case are that a group of violent settlers stormed a town full of innocent people on the basis of undoubtedly flimsy evidence to dish out mob justice for a possibly even imagined crime. I don’t know why anyone would have an issue with just calling it out for the horrendous shit it is and condemning the IDF for letting it happen and blocking the fucking ambulances. Where are your morals?
Also, fyi, Israel has plenty of hostages (aka people held in “administrative detention” without charge). Does the fact you didn’t mention this mean that you support it? Or is this all of a sudden a very dishonest way to argue?
Lots of tankies/leftists in the Fediverse :(
Calm down. Not everyone can be Zionist and make disingenuous false equivalencies for horrifically over the top behavior.
Genocide Joe supports this
It makes almost zero sense to call him genocide joe on its own, but in this case it’s obvious there is no thought behind it at all and this has just become the knee jerk response any time Israelis do anything.
It’s more attacks from shills and foreign powers who want Trump to win.
I want Jill Stein to win. Also to be able to sleep at night knowing I did not consent to genocide.
You’re consenting with all 3 choices, that’s the fun part
Join a radical militia if you actually give a fuck
Not true, I’m expressing democracy by voting for a candidate that has decent polices.
You’re being a useful idiot without a long term plan.
Its the opposite, nice projection. You’re a useful idiot for capitalist Dems and have no plan to change that because you consent to it.
I’m afraid we’ve reached the point of no return for Gaza. Israeli settlers are exploiting Oct 7 for maximum effect and are aiming to settle all of Gaza. I really hope the US withdraws all support soon before Joe is fucked. I bet this is not the legacy he wants to leave before he retires.
This isn’t Gaza and the people who did 10/07 do not have a presence here. Call it what it is - ethnic cleansing.
20% of Israeli citizens are Palestinian Arabs and practicing Muslims. Your comment makes no sense.
Yes and the ruling government openly is racist to them and excludes them from government jobs. It’s called apartheid.
False. A significant number of these Palestinian Arabs are members of the IDF, and there is no second-class citizenship in Israel. The Israeli government also does not prohibit employment based on race, ethnicity, or religious affiliation. Calling Israel “apartheid” is a tankie talking point and is observably and patently false. Do better.
Where did all those other Palestinians go?
Whoa lets hope the people in the West Bank don’t do anything back that would be terrorism and gives israel the right to defend themselves! Get ready to condemn everyone in the West Bank!
