Plans to stop young people born since 2009 ever smoking are being debated and will be voted on later.
Rishi Sunak’s bill aims to create the UK’s first smoke-free generation in a major public health intervention.
The Tobacco and Vapes Bill would ensure anyone turning 15 from this year would be banned from buying cigarettes, and also aims to make vapes less appealing to children.
A number of Tory MPs have told the BBC they won’t back the bill.
The BBC understands that Business and Trade Secretary Kemi Badenoch is considering voting against the plans.
Get fucked prohibitionists.
There will come a time when humanity wins the war on drugs, and everyone has the bodily autonomy to put what drugs they want in their own body.
And when that day happens… will you see drug users persecuting people for not being high?
Will you see prisons built for those who dare stay sober?
Will people be given felonies for being straight edge?
Will drug users militarize the police and erode our constitutional rights in a vain quest to enforce thier way of life on others?
NO
because we are not them.
You should feel fortunate we seek justice, not retribution.
I love it when people who don’t do drugs act like they’re somehow superior beings because of it. “I don’t need drugs, and neither should anyone else! 😤” Stfu Karen, doing drugs is about the most human thing we humans do, and you drink coffee you insufferable human paraquat.
Prohibition does not work.
If they are serious about combatting smoking, they should medicalize it and treat it like an addiction.
I don’t smoke and am completely against smoking. But this sounds like wishful thinking that has the potential to backfire spectacularly. There is a reason why many jurisdictions are deregulating banned substances. It helps to prevent the black market for concentrated and adulterated versions of the banned substance. It also helps people with addiction to seek treatment without worry of prosecution. Perhaps they should invest in better education than go for bans.
I’m all about personal choice and laws like this conflict me.
Same. Normally I’d say “keep it legal” but smoking has significant second-hand effects, unlike something like motorcycle helmets for example (which I do not think should be legally mandated). I’m very torn on this one.
I don’t see any benefits to smoking but we can say that about many things. I’d like to live in a smoke free world but once we go down the path, we run into the issue where to start banning everything on health concerns.
I like being able to go out to eat and it be smoke free but I wish the market had decided that.
we run into the issue where to start banning everything on health concerns.
Not really. Soda for example doesn’t harm others, regardless of how much you drink. Smoking is different.
If you’re smoking by yourself, you are not impacting anyone. In the United States, it’s banned indoors almost everywhere. The main impact is to the user.
Lots of smokers do so around their kids. How do you police that?
I dunno.
It’s illegal to jack off in front of your kids.
Why don’t we make it illegal to smoke in the same house as them, too?
Both seem equally-difficult to police.
Excellent analogy - you’re right.
Then you have the “parents” who purposely blow smoke in their baby’s face so the baby develops asthma and they can get government money for the baby from disability.
Ah yes the best way to make money: have kids.
You’re delusional man, me too thanks.
If you ride without a helmet, you’re too dumb to get a licence
I agree that it’s incredibly stupid, but if being stupid were illegal, we’d have an awful lot of people in prison.
I find the second hand effects argument a difficult one to swallow when we deal with car pollution, industrial waste, microplastics, and so much more on a minute to minute basis. Anyone who lives in a city has essentially no reasonable expectation of overly clean air.
Public spaces are just that—public—and there should not be an expectation of being insulated from every harmful output by your fellow citizens, within reason. I’d take the errant cigarette waft over a bus station fart any day.
when we deal with car pollution, industrial waste, microplastics, and so much more
I’d support banning or heavily penalizing those things too, FWIW.
