I run a large community, it’s not just a matter of asking people to contact me elsewhere. You can’t uproot a community and bring it somewhere else, and I wouldn’t be able to at all because of matrix’s and revolt’s lack of permissions systems, bots, and other things that are unique to discord. I would welcome a viable alternative. I’ve spent many hours trying to make matrix work with the functionality I need, and it’s simply not possible.

As far as the link goes, I’m not sure if those rules mean the links themselves must not contain tracking, or that the website on the other end must not contain tracking. You can have youtube links that themselves have no tracking information in it. You can’t just ban links to any site with tracking, you’d just have nothing you can link to.

Edit: the rule also says “isn’t great”. That’s not the same as “isn’t allowed”. Forcing someone onto a frontend that either doesn’t work for them or is annoying to use I think is worse than letting users redirect themselves using a “tracking filled website” link.

Aliucord and webcord also work well

They do but I like them

Mostly to do with the permissions system. I want a hierarchical set of categories and channels, and I want to be able to set one user as a privileged user, and instantly get access to all of those channels, or some of them, depending on the permissions settings. I also want some users to be able to see some channels, but not all, with only a single join action. In discord you join the “server” and you get all channels unless permissions specify otherwise. Then when you get a role, you may be able to instantly see and use several other channels. Some servers let you choose your own roles, and manually give you others, to customize what you can see and interact with.

With matrix there are… permissions. But they can’t be inherited by a room from some sort of category, it’s hard or impossible to automatically hide some rooms from users who join a space, with an option to instantly give them access to those rooms with an easily configurable toggle. Rooms tend to act like their own space sometimes, and each can have their own invite which is annoying. I want them to act as a collection under a single membership, just like you can join a single discord server, and whether or not you see them, all channels are contained in that server and getting access to those channels is a matter of role permissions. I also vaguely remember having trouble with the admin stuff and adding other admins/moderators to my matrix space, but I can’t remember what problems I had with that.

Basically it’s hard to make a large matrix space with many many rooms that have different purposes. Not to mention the lack of forum channels, those are required for my type of large community.

I have a few hundred people in my community. I imagine it’s much worse with larger communities.

Edit: now that I think about it, my moderator team even looked up some of the missing features, and the matrix devs had stated that they are not planned, and that is not the direction they want to take matrix in. Which is fine, but that means it has a completely different use case than something like discord for communities.

You can use Libredirect, an extension that redirects you to privacy-respecting alternatives to websites, and update it in the settings to make it automatically open in Freetube. https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/libredirect/

I use LibRedirect. It can handle youtube links and redirect them to a number of frontends. It can also directly open freetube. It’s a firefox extension.

They’re saying it’s too fast, don’t think speed has anything to do with attention span either.