• Plaid_Kaleidoscooe@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    On one hand, I absolutely agree with this. It’s human nature to want to avoid such a fate if one can reasonably avoid it. If I had the money and could buy my way out of participation in a fucking war…I’d hate to think that I wouldn’t.

    I know it’s their home and things like that…but not everyone cares about those sorts of ties, and they become even less meaningful in death. I’m not saying I condone their actions, just that I understand.

    • vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org
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      1 year ago

      Trust me, you’ll find an official to bribe in such a situation in Eastern Europe. This is a PR move, to arrest some from time to time and show that in the news. Happens regularly.

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        1 year ago

        Doesnt have to be Eastern Europe. Plenty of examples of rich people finding ways for their kids to avaoid the draft during Vietnam and WWII in the US.

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          My dad got out of Vietnam (unwittingly) when my grandparents paid the doctor to give him a bad medical evaluation. He was all hyped to go, only to discover he had… I want to say it was flat feet or something? Basically “you’re no good at marching so you won’t war good”.

          Stayed in college, got his masters and then his PhD, then went on to work for a major energy company and move out to the suburbs and live the good life into his golden years. A couple of his high school buddies went and got killed - one in a helicopter crash and another after stepping on a landmine.

          When 9/11 happened and I was ready to enlist, he grabbed me by the shoulder and explained the best thing his parents ever did for him was keeping him out of the war.

          I only wish every parent had this conversation with their kids. The world would be a better place.

  • deafboy@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    A real crime here is the draft. And before the tankies start circling this post, it applies to russia as well.

    • Aux@lemmy.world
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      1 year ago

      Regular draft is unacceptable. But this is not a regular draft.

      • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
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        1 year ago

        Cheering for other people’s kids to march off and kill one another.

        Booing when they come home, covered in blood and sweet and tears, because they didn’t achieve some kind of unequivocal victory.

        Then claiming the (((Secret Traitors))) cost you the war by undermining moral with information about what was actually going on.

  • SuddenDownpour@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    If it’s a crime, do not fire them, lock them up in pris-

    President Volodymyr Zelenskyy called the actions “treason” and has initiated criminal proceedings.

    Oh. Oh well.

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      1 year ago

      Also, one of the main reasons the Russian army has been underperforming is corruption. Loads of money siphoned, incompetent people getting positions, you name it. Zelenskyy is also making sure the same doesn’t happen in his country and stays on top performance/efficiency wise.

      • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
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        1 year ago

        the Russian army has been underperforming is corruption

        Check under the hood of any army and you’re going to find all sorts of corruption, graft, and kickbacks. War Is A Racket.