• Jo Miran@lemmy.ml
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    3 months ago

    There’s no downside if you can do it and extreme wealth is only a requirement if some of the many offers don’t apply to you. Spain was basically giving away citizenship a few years back. Bulgaria is pretty open.

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      3 months ago

      I’ve lived in the US for quite a few decades, but I’m still a German citizen. When asked why I don’t take US citizenship, I give a three-part answer:

      1. I don’t believe you can owe allegiance to two different entities at the same time.
      2. Between a German EU passport and a US Green Card, I can travel almost anywhere in the world.
      3. I f I ever run into legal troubles, first call is to the wife, second goes to the embassy.
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        3 months ago

        This is a personal decision but I think it’s better to be pragmatic about it. If your country of origin permits dual citizenship I’d do the naturalization simply because it gives you more flexibility. It’s a more secure status, no need to worry about renewing or spending longer periods abroad. And you get to vote of course.

        Citizenships and passports are bureaucracy and they don’t define who you are, that comes from your heart. I’d look at it as a practical matter.

        My understanding is that Germany is looking to start permitting dual citizenship later this year.

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          Citizenships and passports are bureaucracy and they don’t define who you are, that comes from your heart. I’d look at it as a practical matter.

          You sound like my wife before I gave in and we got a marriage license. I don’t need a fucking shaman or some civil servant in a black weird dress to legitimize our relationship.

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            3 months ago

            I felt/feel the same way. Still got married to my wife for legal reasons. Her mother is insane and if something happened to my wife, we don’t want her getting power of attorney, nor do we even want her in the hospital if it can be avoided.

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      3 months ago

      Parts of Germany are very unfriendly to non white Christians that speak fluent German.

      Some friends and family left to Germany, they all got better life economics wise. They found friends, had good jobs, etc… but then most of them left Germany.

      They really like the public transport, functioning health system, food availability, access to nature and more.

      But they all had constant encounters with neu-nazis. It didn’t get to physical assault, they felt physically safe, but it did create highly hostile environments, either at work, the supermarket or the streets.

      There are countries in the EU that will allow you to enjoy the same benefits without suffering harrasment by neu-nazis.

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        Parts of Germany

        Sigh. Yeah that’s sadly true but I can’t Imagine there is any country without such shitheads.

        But at least our civil society is fighting these pricks.

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          And yet, they all found better life in other countries. In my opinion, and it very much a not very educated opinion, the German shame about the shitier parts of society makes it harder for foreigners to understand the level of shityness in different regions of Germany before setting living there.

          The general route of people that moved was find a jon from a far, move to the area of the job, handle 10 metric tons of paperwork, better their German just to understand more and more just how mistreated and undesirable they are.

          Some chose to stay anyway, some left, tried their luck in a different place and encountered less shitiness and some came back.

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      3 months ago

      It’s VERY TRUE, but no body will take that invitation, job ads in Germany DEMAND that you speak fluent German to work here. I mean you are not even considered if you you tell them you will start learning the language. This happened to 3, highly qualified , experienced colleges of mine plus with me so multiple cases. I know at least 2 cases , where People who are living in Germany are afraid to change jobs within DE because they been rejected due to lack of German language.

      I agree one might need to local languages, but no talent from outside is coming pre learned German in droves. There will be change in this before Germany REALLY NEEDS people. Till then one must talk DE or work with junior/inexperienced person leading to inefficiencies ( see FOR EXAMPLE: DB and multiple of your companies)